This page will hopefully chronicle the building of the Flats Stalker 18 from Bateau.com, a plywood composite skiff intended for chasing redfish in extremely shallow water. This will be my first foray into both boat building and web pages. Wish me luck! The posts on this page will only display with the most recent at the top, so if you want to start at the beginning, scroll down to the bottom and work your way up. The archive on the right is in chronological order, however. Most of the pictures can be clicked for a larger image. Feel free to leave comments by clicking the Comments link at the bottom of each post.

Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Rod Holders

So after a year of declining business, moving to a new place, and the total upheaval of my personal life, I'm back to working on the boat and I must say that I'm once again pretty pumped about the project. I've moved the boat to the garage at the house I'm currently living in and it's turning out to be the perfect build space. Having the boat right there at home is much more convenient than in a warehouse 20 minutes away. There's just nothing like being able to work in 30 minute blocks of time as they present themselves. Anyway, on to the boat.

I've reached the stage in the build where every step requires a great deal of forethought. For the most part, I'm no longer following the plans and am customizing the layout based on my own personal preference. This presents the opportunity for colossal screw-ups heretofore never encountered! So I'm just trying to take things slowly and methodically, but without letting the whole "paralysis through analysis" thing grind the build to a halt. I've already glassed in the undersole midframes, so the next step is to figure out what I'm going to do with the walkaround gunwale supports/rodholders. After a lot of cardboard templating, this is where I'm currently at.






Since the rodholders are integral to the framework of the boat, their location fore and aft can't be changed. This sucks, as where they have to be is not exactly ideal for holding ... uh ... rods. To actually have the rods supported correctly, the tips have to penetrate the bulkhead at the front or back of the cockpit. As shown in the pics, I'll probably go with the rear bulkhead, Flip Pallot style. The idea behind this is that it provides easiest access to the person on the casting deck. If the caster is throwing a 7 weight for reds and a pack of rampaging jacks rolls through, the 10 weight should be within easy reach. In theory. The pics show an 8' spinning rod, 9' 12 weight, and 7' light spinner in the holders. Looks like for maximum fly rod rockage, all the tubes will have to extend almost to the transom. I might also have to raise the lower rod slot to make it useful for anything but something like a gaff. I'm close to what I want though. The finished product will be a sandwich of 2 pieces of 1/4" ply and a piece of 1x mahogany, which should give me a frame about 1 1/4" thick. I shudder at the idea of a $500 fly rod bouncing around on the single piece of 3/8" shown in the plans. For weight reasons, Divinycell would have been a preferable core to the mahogany, but that stuff is outrageously expensive when compared to the low, low price of free I'm getting the mahogany for. Bungees will secure the rods in the holders while running.

OK, so I'm just going to come right out and say that from here on out, a lot of the customizing you see me do you'll already find on Bayport Bob's boat. Part of that is because I feel like we've had a similar vision for our boats from the beginning. Part of it is that some of his design solutions are more workable than the ones I've come up with, the most notable being gas storage. Also, his FS18 appears to be totally badass, so there's that.

The Cap'n has a new perch. He doesn't have anything to add to the rodholder discussion except that he is watching you and is terribly displeased.



Woot.


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9 comments:

Frank said...

Glad to see that you are back at it again! About the mahogany sandwiched between your two rod holder frames... If you are concerned about weight, I would take a hole saw or the jig saw and skeletonize the mahogany. I am thinking of the rib of an airplane wing, the ply will act as a structural skin and the mahogany will be there to bulk up the rod holder so you won't screw up the rods. Just my .02, I hope all is going well, despite the business/ personal stuff. Take care man, and swing by the lab when you are in g'ville, you know where we be.

Elie said...

That's pretty much the plan. I don't have mahogany pieces wide enough to span the whole frame, so it will be pieced together anyway. There will be gaps in the middle. Sent an email to your school account. Check it out and get back when you get a chance.

Cole D said...

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! I've checked the site way to many times without update. Yet I soldier on and...lo and behold you've picked the axe back up. I'll be back in PC for the summer and Items #1-15 all say catch fish. Can't wait to see the thing in person.

Cole D said...

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! I've checked the site way to many times without update. Yet I soldier on and...lo and behold you've picked the axe back up. I'll be back in PC for the summer and Items #1-15 all say catch fish. Can't wait to see the thing in person.

Bayport_Bob said...

Get at it!

Spashed mine on Sunday, 4/19/09.

Here's a mini report (fyi, new Honda 20hp, tiller)...

"25.8 mph with the stock prop & I think the RPM's were around 5750. Ride is plush. Not nearly as tippy as I would have thought - it just rocks a little when you shift the weight to the sides. Spray is only an issue if you tab the nose down and if the wind picks up the bow spray. The trim tabs are very nice add-on & I'm glad I installed them since it gives you all kinds of adjustment. The jack plate works as advertised, but I thinks it's squeaking a little at low rpm's - a little resonance point that goes a way with a change of throttle. With a little tab coordination there is no "jumping on plane", it just stays flat with no bow rise. There's a bit of transom spray that I think is coming off of the jack plate actuator mount, but what are you going to do. I can live with that since it doesn't impact anything"

Seadek will be provided by CastawayCustoms, hopefully in the next few days & the platform top & rubrail install is all that is left.

Anonymous said...

nice post. I would love to follow you on twitter. By the way, did any one learn that some chinese hacker had busted twitter yesterday again.

Unknown said...

Been thinking about building one of these boats myself. Between your Blog, and Bayport Bob's site, I think everything is there to help a novice builder like myself. I was wondering if you have any new updates you should share. Any pictures? How long until the big slash? Love the site, and cant wait to see any updates.
Joseph

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